Yes the church will be here sadly there will be a great falling away.
that is great that you read it in our bible about Paul saying the great falling away must happen first...though, some minister don't finish reading the following verses and teach other things...
I believe in 3 raptures the first will only be the bride and Philadelphia church 1 out of 7 seven will be saved from the hour of trial. The church is not the bride but the man child the body of Christ. The first rapture is liken to Noahs day only a few will be saved. The church is wrong in teaching that the whole church is the bride. There are different harvests barley, wheat and grapes each has its own way of harvesting. Why do you think there is so much argument about pre, mid and post rapture? It's because they are all valid! I came to that realization less than a year ago and now I just started reading a book called Three raptures by Ty S. Lamb he is going over all the scriptures and so far it is very good!
Thanks for giving the book that says these things. And stating this is why you believe in three raptures.
Hearing about these many beliefs among the churches about 14 yrs ago, I went directly to Our Lord and
I asked our Lord why there where so many different teachings in the churches about the End and His coming. Over a period of time our Lord showed me a book that spoke about the pre, mid, post, and historicist and futurest teachings and the verses they understood.
In reading this book it took me a while to digest things that were very new to my ears....I had to keep praying and asking the Lord to help understand what all these teachings where saying, because when we are taught certain things, it becomes very hard to unlearn them and to get our eyes opened to more than what we have been taught...and this goes with about everything we learn in this life as well...
When I had finally digested the new information, then Our Lord showed me in His verses what He said will come forth at the End and the reasons why... from that event on it became my promise to myself to research the doctrines of men when I hear them...through prayer to God, for I knew I could trust Jesus to give me whatever was good, I only needed to pray and ask our Lord Jesus. The verse that came to me then was in Matt I believe where the Lord told us that we had not because we ask not...and that He knows what we have need of...but we also need to ask him directly...so I did, and Our Lord responded in opening my mind why the many doctrines.
These things I have shared with you, so you now have some insight why I believe the way I do and so not to offend you in why I don't agree with three raptures. Our Lord Jesus says in the verses there
is only ONE RESURRECTION In the Christ for his Elect and that takes place at His 2nd coming. And those who do not go with Him into the rooms prepared for us since the beginning, at His coming will be left to be burned to Chaff, by the Eternal fire upon the earth.
Luke 13:24-26 Jesus said:
Make every effort to enter through the Narrow door, because many, I tell you will try to enter and will not be able to. Once the owner of the House gets up and
closes the door, you will stand outside Knocking and pleading, Sir, Open the door for Us."....But the Lord will answer, "I don't know you or where you come from.
This in Luke 13 is the fact of what takes place at his coming...he gathers those who made every effort to enter through the Narrow door.
There is a parable that describes this as well and it is that it is easier for the camel to go through the eye of the needle than for a rich man to enter into Heaven. Over in Jerusalem when the wall existed the camel had to get down on it's knees to enter into the city. The struggle was great and took the help of others pulling and tugging on the front and back of the camel to get the animal through into the City...so it is with us in Christ, we must make every effort to come out of sin, which is not impossible because with God all things are possible.
Another parable is the 10 Virgins, only 5 are taken by Jesus at His coming and the other 5 are left to burn in the eternal fire, as they had no oil in their lamps, they did not go through the Narrow door which required much effort, but possible with Christ. (Matt 25)
On the Day the Lord comes these things take place and
there is not another rapture or appearing from Christ, because Jesus says at that time the kingdoms of the earth become the kingdoms of our Lord which is at the time of his appearing in the clouds.
Jesus will not come until the Father sends Our Lord down from the heavens with the blast of a trumpet to destroy the Beast who is set up (2 Thess 2:1-7) on the wing of the Temple at the End of the 1260 days given to him to accomplish all the prophecy, God spoke concerning him and his people in the Last Days.
When you read this man's book go to each verse he gives and read the verses before that verse and after that verse and pray for our Lord to show you his truth in the matter...and He will....and you will see the verses used are taken out of context or they are referring to the same time of the End and this man does not understand the verses on this matter....as many events are taking place through out the earth and are written about with each prophet of the bible...and each prophet is speaking of the Same Event, but in the vision they were given by Our Lord for our admonition.
If you choose not to do this in seeking God's help to show you and protect you...that is your choice and I am not hear to judge you or condemn you for your choice....you are my sister in Christ and I sincerely am hoping that your encouraged by the things written to seek Our Lord in this matter for His Truth on it.
In Christ's love
Vickie
This is what is on his back page: We already realize there is much more to God's word that meets the eye. We already know there has been a haze of confusion and disagreement surrounding events of the last days. What if we haven't seen all there is to see about end times events because of our preconceived notions? What if our presuppositions have been skewed regarding God's objectives through the book of revelation? Perhaps it is time to press through the confines of former doctrine and explore a few more questions: What if there were three raptures? Does the scenario fit? Is it theologically sound? What are the implications? Why would it be important for us to know? You will soon find out...
I will finish reading and let everyone know what he says.
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